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Will Syria be Invaded?

Yes
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No
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Maybe
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Yes and it will cause WW3
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Post Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:01 am
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Well? Is there going to be an invasion or not? Sure is looking that way. Millions more to be killed. Those middle-eastern countries just arent knuckling under are they.

Also - who will do the invading?

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Post Thu Jun 21, 2012 9:42 am
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I think massive pressure needs placed on Russia.

Russian support keeps Assad in power.

Russia stops that support, Assad's regime will go.

Still, I feel this is a FAR worse situation than Lybia, as there really isnt any group ready to step in and restore sanity.

IMO, the West should offer up Syria to Russia, say they can take it over and put in a puppet govt until acceptable elections can be held.

After all, I feel that a Russian ruled Syria is a far better condition than the current one, or even a Syria under Assad.

And given that Russia's main fear is losing a foot hold in the Middle East, this may be the way out to get Russia what it wants to hold on to, while finding a way to stop the slaughter
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Post Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:15 pm
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More invasions. We have to convert all the non-xtian countries to our religion and "democracy".

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Post Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:32 pm
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For practical purposes, America needs to butt out. It's not that they have no right to speak up and call for a solution. It's simply a matter of dealing with Russian pig-headedness. Russia wants to be seen as independent of Western international policy. Any attempts to pressure them will only see them push back.

Post Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:41 am
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Yeah, only now Syria went and shot down a Turkish Air Force F-4. This means if they want, Turkey can invoke Article 5 of the NATO treaty at which point Russia can back the hell off unless they think Syria is worth WWIII.
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Post Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:26 am
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World War 3 is overdue anyway. Time to kill off a generation.

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Post Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:10 am
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That whole shooting down of the turkish jet @ this time seems a bit suss to me. I think theres stuff we arent being told about this. We are being told that it was for no reason so we will get angry and not question an invasion.

I mean - doesnt this look familiar to anyone?

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Post Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:16 am
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Russia says Iran should be part of Syria summit

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hX3jzWp4MCMyfB11p3iIsSXbKulw?docId=CNG.07def31d5314889d95b675d5ac81c934.91

DEAD SEA, Jordan — Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Tuesday that Iran should be invited to an international meeting on the Syria conflict in Geneva at the weekend, drawing

But the United States swiftly rejected the Russian proposal.

"It is better to involve Iran in the settlement (of the Syrian crisis)," Putin told a news conference following talks with Jordan's King Abdullah II on the shores of the Dead Sea.

"In any case it would complicate the process (if Iran is ignored)."

Wrapping up a one-day visit to Jordan, on a Middle East tour that had already taken him to Israel and the West Bank, Putin said Iran's support is needed.

"The more Syria's neighbours are involved in the settlement process the better. Ignoring these possibilities, these interests would be counterproductive, as diplomats say," he added.

"It is better to secure its support," said Putin.

The United States said, meanwhile, that it was increasingly likely to join the international meeting on the Syria crisis but rejected Russian calls for Iran to take part.

"We are getting closer but we don't have any decisions yet," State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland told reporters in Washington.

But concerning Iran she added: "Given its support for the regime and its continued behavior vis-a-vis Syria, we just don't see it as able to make a helpful contribution right now."

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov earlier told reporters in Jordan that Iran should be invited to Saturday's meeting in Geneva.

"It should certainly be done," he said, adding that he would take part in the summit.

If Iran is not invited "then all those who can really influence all the main Syrian sides will not be present," he said.

UN-Arab League envoy Kofi Annan, who wants to gather the major powers in Geneva in a final bid to get agreement on a political transition plan for Syria, has yet to officially announce the meeting.

But Lavrov said he would still go, even if Iran is not invited.

"I will go. But in that case we will simply be talking about how to further gather together all the participants who are necessary in order to use this chance because there is no guarantee it will be crowned with success," he added.

"But this chance has to be used. For this to happen you need to gather all those who have real influence on the situation. Iran is no doubt one of them."

"One needs to agree to influence all Syrian sides so that they themselves sit down at the negotiating table and begin to get along and look for consensus solutions," he said.

"Only they themselves can find agreement, and outside players can help them get together."

It is not still clear if Britain, France and China -- the other three permanent members of the UN Security Council along with Russia and the United States -- will attend the Geneva meeting.

In Jordan, Putin opened a guesthouse for Christian pilgrims at Baptism site in the Jordan Valley, where many Christians believe Jesus was baptised.

He arrived in Jordan from the West Bank, where he met Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas during a brief visit to Bethlehem, a day after talks in Israel with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and President Shimon Peres.

"I did not set myself a task to negotiate a personal meeting between the two leaders, but I am under the impression that agreement is possible," between Israel and the Palestinian leaders, Putin said in Jordan.

The peacemaking Quartet, which groups Russia, the United States, the European Union and the United Nations, has been trying to nudge the two sides back to direct talks, on hold since late 2010.

But little progress has been made, as the Palestinians insist on a settlement freeze before talks resume, while Israel calls for new discussions without preconditions.

During his visit to Israel, his first since returning to the Kremlin for a historic third term in May, Putin was urged to act on Iran's controversial nuclear programme.

"The Iranian problem is not a simple one but still I proceed from the fact that it can and should be solved through absolutely peaceful means, by way of a negotiation process and on the basis of respect of the right of the Iranian people to the peaceful use of energy," Putin told reporters.

"With absolute guarantees provided to the world community that the realisation of this programme would not lead to the emergence of nuclear weapons in this country and will not facilitate the nuclear proliferation in the world."

The international community has been pursuing talks with Tehran, but three high-level meetings -- the most recent in Moscow -- have failed to produce any breakthrough.

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It would be much easier to invade iran then by just invading syria and calling iran part of syria huh.

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Post Sat Jul 07, 2012 10:37 am
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http://www.infowars.com/shocking-videos ... -fighters/

Shocking Videos Reveal Truth Behind Syrian “Freedom Fighters”


NATO-backed “pro-democracy” activists commit brutal atrocities
Paul Joseph WatsonInfowars.com
Wednesday, July 4, 2012


Despite the fact that parties on both sides of the conflict in Syria have been responsible for violence, the
international NATO-aligned media has hyped often dubious accusations of Assad-sponsored massacres while
virtually ignoring massacres, beheadings and other acts of brutality carried out by rebel insurgents.
Whereas the establishment media, particularly the likes of CNN and the London Guardian, have prostrated themselves as 24-hour rolling propaganda platforms for anonymous “activists” with Twitter accounts, showcasing unverified You Tube clips of alleged atrocities, equally disturbing footage of rebels committing acts of savagery have been buried.

In addition, it has come to light that many of the alleged “massacre” videos and other clips showing Syrians allegedly killed or injured by Assad’s forces that were broadcast globally by the mainstream media have been staged.

It’s time for some balance.

No one can deny that Bashar Al-Assad’s regime has been responsible for violence. But in failing to equally acknowledge the fact that NATO-backed rebels have also carried out innumerable atrocities is not only dishonest, it represents a deliberate effort by the press to manipulate the narrative of unfolding events in Syria as a one-sided war crime rather than the truth – which is the fact that Syria is in a state of civil war.

In throwing their military might behind Syrian rebels, in addition to foreign terrorists affiliated with Al-Qaeda, NATO powers are empowering a minority of extremist Wahabi thugs who are anti-freedom, anti-Christian, anti-Shia, anti-Sunni and who will stop at nothing to entrench their ideologically fanatical power base.

In greasing the skids for a Libya-style NATO military assault, the media has portrayed the rebels as freedom-loving democratic activists who are honorable victims of bloodshed. In reality, as the videos below illustrate, nothing could be further from the truth.

WARNING: Many of the following clips are graphic – viewer discretion is advised.

Post Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:12 am
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The whole thing reeks of propaganda anyway. Since the start. Didnt most of the media post pictures from iraq when this supposedly started? How do we know ANYTHING is actually happening over there? Much less who is to blame.

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